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To be honest, they’re about equal in terms of global sales, in fact, last year the BMW group beat the Daimler group by a hundred thousand or so unit sales. The only noticeable difference in popularity comes when one make releases a game-changing model that temporarily puts the spotlight on said make. Like when BMW launched the i8, it was a revolutionary hybrid sports car that Mercedes had no answer to (at the time). Then Mercedes came out with an all-electric version of the AMG GT, this was before the concept of “electric performance cars” so once again, Daimler group stole the spotlight. This question also depends on who you ask, BMW is the preferred choice for motoring enthusiasts, those who are willing to sacrifice comfort, safety and other amenities in exchange for top-tier performance. Also BMW is renowned for the 50–50 weight distribution and powerful rear-wheel drive trains. Very appealing to track racers and drift hooligans. BMW in a nutshell: Mercedes on the other hand goes for maximum comfort & practicality. Mercedes are renowned for their smooth drive, ample leg&head room, fuel efficiency and crash test safety, however they’ve started making more front-wheel drive cars like the CLA and don’t have as many candidates to compete with BMW’s ‘M-line’ of cars like they used to. Mercedes in a nutshell: The way I see it BMWs are the best cars for drivers, Mercedes are the best cars for passengers,
According to carbuyer website PROS Amazing performance Very economical Stunning design CONS Hefty price tag Limited luggage space Not crash-tested by Euro NCAP
Overview Even though the ,current i8, hasn't lived up to the sporting intentions ,BMW, had for it, that apparently hasn't put the German luxury brand off of high-dollar hybrid sports cars. Development of the next i8—we're a fan of calling it the i8 M, considering it should represent a significant performance improvement over the current model—is underway, and ,BMW's Vision M Next concept, from mid-2019 is proof. A massive increase in power, a longer all-electric driving range, updated styling, and a more capable chassis are all expected to separate the i8 M from the model it will ultimately replace. What's New for 2024? The i8 M—or whatever BMW decides to call its next-generation hybrid sports car—will be all-new for the 2024 model year. Pricing and Which One to Buy Without knowing how the i8 M will be equipped or what options may be available, it's hard to recommend a particular model. We expect the i8 M to be offered in both a fixed-roof coupe body style as well as a ,ragtop roadster,, similar to the current model's lineup. Engine, Transmission, and Performance The i8 M's ,plug-in hybrid powertrain, is anticipated to follow the same basic setup as the current i8, which means an electric motor driving the front wheels and a mid-mounted gasoline engine and electric motor for the rear wheels. In lieu of the i8's turbocharged 1.5-liter three-cylinder gas engine, BMW has said the new car will offer a turbocharged four-cylinder; the company also claims a total system output—gas and electric power combined—of 591 horsepower, which is far more than the i8's 369-hp output. This up-rated powertrain will help the i8 M compete with rivals such as the ,Acura NSX,, ,Lexus LC500h,, and ,Polestar 1,. Range, Charging, and Battery Life The current i8's, 18-mile electric driving range is unimpressive to say the least. BMW has been mum on details such as battery size but said electric driving range for the Vision M Next concept was a claimed 62 miles. That means either BMW's engineers found a way to squeeze a lot more miles out of the current car's 11.6-kWh battery pack or they found space for a much larger unit. It's almost certainly the latter. More information will be available regarding the i8 M's battery, range, and charging capability closer to the car's on-sale date. Fuel Economy and Real-World MPG The EPA has not tested the i8 M or released estimates for its fuel consumption—which is not surprising since the car doesn't exist yet. In addition to improving electric driving range, we're expecting the i8 M to offer slightly better fuel economy ratings than the current i8, despite an anticipated improvement in acceleration and driving performance. For more information about the i8 M's fuel economy, visit ,the EPA's website,. Interior, Comfort, and Cargo Little is known about the i8 M's cabin so far, but we are hoping BMW addresses the i8's difficult ingress and egress by equipping the new car with front-hinged doors and a lower side sill to make the interior more easily accessible. Like the current car, the i8 M will be BMW's playground for future styling and should feature unique materials, cutting-edge features, and eye-popping designs. Storage and cargo capacity will likely remain limited, but a front trunk (or "frunk") may make an appearance to provide additional luggage space. Infotainment and Connectivity A lot can change in the world of in-car infotainment in three-plus years, so details about what might be offered in the i8 M are anyone's guess. In the Vision M Next concept, BMW showed off a futuristic take on infotainment that the company calls the Boost Pod; it consists of several glass screens and a head-up display to provide the driver access to car-related information and on-board entertainment features. Safety and Driver-Assistance Features Considering the i8 M is still a few years off, it's possible more advanced ,driver-assistance features, will be featured, including perhaps a true autonomous driving system. Time will tell. For more information about the i8 M's crash-test results, visit the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (,NHTSA,) and Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (,IIHS,) websites. Key safety features are likely to include: Standard automated emergency braking with pedestrian detection Standard lane-departure warning with lane-keeping assist Available adaptive cruise control with semi-autonomous driving mode Warranty and Maintenance Coverage BMW's warranty coverage could change between now and 2024, but if everything holds steady in this area, expect the same warranty package that's available on today's lineup. A dedicated hybrid-components warranty is all but a certainty, and we're hoping BMW continues to offer a three-year complimentary maintenance plan for all new models. Limited warranty covers 4 years or 50,000 miles Powertrain warranty covers 4 years or 50,000 miles Hybrid components are covered for 8 years or 100,000 miles Complimentary maintenance is covered for 3 years or 36,000 miles
Because gull-wing doors are ,not,, in any way, practical. Okay, okay… with the proper pivot point, gullwing doors are much easier to open in a tight parking space. Which is more a matter of ,convenience ,than practicality. But they’re quite a bit more complicated when it comes to indoor parking garages. The Short, Chaotic History of the DeLorean The Delorean DMC-12, for example, has doors that open up to six feet and five inches (1.961 meters) in height. Which is necessary because people, y’know, need to get in without banging their heads on the doors. Any less would be a danger. And the raised doors require pull handles to close, whereas your typical standard swing-door can be closed with a regular handle by a seat-belted driver or passenger. It gets even worse with SUVs: The Tesla Model X “Falcon Doors” manage to minimize the height gain for the tall SUV in terms of door clearance, but requires fancy software and sensors to keep from banging on parking lot ceilings, and a double pivot to ensure clearance when opening. Which adds complication to a heavy assembly that requires electric motors to open. Creating more failure points that can trap passengers in an accident that compromises the vehicle’s power supply. Speaking of trapping, what happens when the vehicle flips over? While a rollover can trap occupants behind swing doors, it’s not likely both sides will be wedged shut in a rollover, not without major roof deformation - and those doors will typically pop open, anyway, when that happens. For cars with gullwing doors, you won’t be able to open them at all if the car is on its roof, so you need to add explosive bolts to pop them off: VIDEO: Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG crash-test video shows off exploding door hinges There’s a similar issue with scissor-doors… BMW i8 Flips During Test Drive Crash in Mexico, Doors Open Tightly Adding explosive bolts and emergency door removal systems adds more complexity and cost to an already heavy, expensive, assembly, one which will also wear out pneumatic struts and motors much faster than automatic tailgates, because you open them much more often. Gullwing doors also require you to redesign the roof for extra strength to meet rollover regulations. Whereas you can avoid all these issues by simply using ,practical,… regular… doors. 'Seat Belts Save Lives': Police Respond To Rollover Crash In Lincoln
Apples to Oranges here. The Tesla is far more pratical then the BMW I8. Tesla Model S P100D: 135k Seats: 5 and a full trunk and frunk (front boot) 0–60mph in 2.4 seconds Top Speed: 155 mph limited Power plant: 760+ hp 2 electric motors Battery: 100 Kwh 300+ miles range Crash test: ,https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-model-s-achieves-best-safety-rating-any-car-ever-tested?redirect=no, That was in 2013. More info here: ,Model S | Tesla BMW I8: 140k Seats: 2 + 2 small adults in rear seats 0–60mph in 3.8 seconds Top speed: 150 mph limited Powerplants: 1.5 L turbo 3cyl with unidentifed electric motor. Combined rating of only 357hp Battery: 7.1 Kwh 20+ mile range in EV mode. Crash test: “can't assign a rating given the lack of data, so we're withholding a score” ,2017 BMW i8 More info here: ,BMW i8
I believe I am qualified to answer these questions. I’ve worked in many Design Studios including those of McLaren, Jaguar, Land Rover, Bentley, etc. I’ve worked in everything from initial design all the way to manufacturing. So now that we’ve settled that. One key thing to remember is from the day the design director first puts his idea on paper to the day Job 1 or first customer car is produced it will take 5 - 10 years. Honestly speaking, I’ve never worked on any project that has run on the projected time plan. Honestly never. Doesn't matter how many cars, if it’s 100 McLarens or 30,000 Land Rovers. No project I’ve worked on ever ran as per the plan. It was always delayed. When we work to design a car, we actually have to design a car for the future. So a design produced today will be out for people to buy almost 10 years later. So you see concepts looking all futuristic. But by the time it’s released they look more realistic. When a car is designed, it’s designed by designers. They are artists - pure artists, not engineers. Then the designs move to studio engineers who then make everything feasible and a reality. So it’s always a battle between designers and engineers. Engineers want reality and designers want, well a beautiful car. They seldom care about budget and other marketing constraints. To be completely strict to your question, “how long does it take for the designer to design a car?” well not long at all, a few hours to a week. Then it’s passed on to the rest of the design team to add the details followed by an approval of the design director. Then we build clay models from small scale then later a full scale. Interior design cubes are also made. Then scanned with a 3D scanner then the digital process starts. This is the most painstaking process because a design that usually looks nice and amazing is usually very hard to produce. Not impossible but very hard. If it costs too much then there is a compromise between the engineers and the designers. After surfaces are confirmed then the actual engineering goes, i.e., things underneath the car. Packaging all the components and making sure they work etc. Don't forget many companies run design and engineering side by side. That doesn't always work but it’s a good time saver. But after following all these steps from, Design - Engineering - Packaging - Testing - Release - Job 1 you get a car that was designed 10 years ago. I’ve obviously missed out a lot of key aspects between the design and release process. Such as virtual testing, virtual builds, crash testing (a lot of design changes after crash testing), dynamic testing, on road tests (things vibrating cause issues), noise and rattle, cost down events, build issues. Honestly, the list can go on forever. And after all that effort, the world gets to see the car that the design director once imagined and most of the time it's quite different to what the actual car is: Renault Captur BMW i8 VW Scirocco The list can go on, but a lot of these cars also do look the same as the concept. Updates Wow! What a response, 😆 guys I’m so flattered. I just started on Quora and thank you so much for this. More than 5.1k upvotes. I just poured a bit of my mind out on an answer, and I'm so thankful for your supportive and generous comments. Honestly, I can talk about cars all day long. I look forward to keeping this up and hopefully answering more and hearing more from you guys. I find that I especially love the comment section. Listening to people and reading their thoughts and small discussions, love it all. Please keep the thoughts and responses coming and I’d love to keep this up. Once again, guys, thank you, and I’m really humbled by all the the love and support.
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