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no others dont feel the same way. dont be too sure of yourself. i am a car enthusiast. i owned bmw m3, alfa, toyota and i dont think they are great. BMW is full of reliability problems. the plastics used are terrible. japanese are more reliable but short of enjoyment.
Tried learning on a Mini. 0/10 do not recommend. Actually learned on an Acura, but Audi was the easiest. I learned for work, and the next fun car I want, BMW M3, is more reliable as a manual! Such a useful skill.
I’ve owned 4 BMWs, and in my experience, BMW lost its way a while ago. In terms of the driving experience, older cars are simply better. Here’s my experience with them: 2015 BMW 650 Gran Coupe: quite simply the worst car I’ve ever owned. A beautiful car with great straight-line speed, but heavy and sloppy. Bone-jarring ride quality, and useless back seats. The worst thing about it, however, was that it was a horribly unreliable car. It was in the shop all the time, and usually it was due to electrical issues. That 4.4 liter, turbocharged V8 has been a disaster for BMW. I got rid of that car because I got tired of constantly dealing with its problems. 2011 BMW 335i with a manual transmission and the Dinan Stage 3 tune: This is one of my two current BMWs that I own. Outstanding torque, great straight-line speed and superb power delivery. The clutch and gearbox are both excellent. The car has, thus far, been reliable, which is surprising. That’s the end of the good news. The bad news is that it feels heavy, it has waaaaaaaay too much body roll for what is basically supposed to be a performance car, the iDrive interface is the worst infotainment system I’ve ever used, the seats are rocks, and the interior in general is just cheap. 2008 BMW BMW M3: even though this car and my 335i are both part of the E90 platform, they’re completely different cars. The 335i is faster and has a better stick — and iDrive is a nightmare on both of them — but the M3 is simply the better car in every other way. Much, much better handling, that glorious V8, more comfortable, better-looking. In general, that car was reliable, but it was very expensive to fix when something broke. Plus, the rod bearings on this M3, just like they were in the E46 M3, could explode at any minute. It was a relatively low failure rate on the E90 — less than 2% — but bear in mind that if rod bearings explode, the engine is done. It could happen at any time and there was really no way to see it coming. 2001 BMW 540i: this is the other one I still own. Glorious machine. The V8 purrs, the interior on this car is better than on any of the others I’ve owned, the stick has no business being so good but it is, it’s really comfortable and it just drives so nice despite the fact that it’s 18 years old. Yes, the car always seems to be leaking something, but I can live with it. In general, these are reliable cars and the drive is absolutely worth it. So what’s happened to BMW from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s to now? A few things — none of them good. Reliability has gotten worse, infotainment systems have gotten more cumbersome, manual transmissions are dying, the cars are getting heavier, natural aspiration is dying, the engines don’t sound nearly as good, and — most noticeably — driving dynamics have been sacrificed for more bells and whistles. The problem is that BMW seems to exist in some kind of strange in-between world in which they simultaneously do luxury and performance, but don’t master either. BMW has the worst interiors of the Big 3 German brands. Performance on BMWs used to be much, much better than either Mercedes or Audi, but now those two have caught up in terms of straight-line speed, and BMW just isn’t as good in the handling department as it used to be due to the added weight. BMW leans more toward luxury than driving dynamics now. For them as a brand, that’s fine, but for us as driving enthusiasts, it’s not great. There are other BMWs I’d love to own but most of them are older cars. The only newer BMW that I could find remotely interesting is an M2.
Hello, Yes - LOADS of pointlessly ,bad, engineering implementations which ,fly in the face ,of over a century of refined methods of keeping a car functional. And - and this should be taken as ,shocking, - they are ,all GERMAN, car engine design trends. After you’ve seen this, think ,very carefully, about whether you want a German car in your life.  Engine access and the lack of it - case study : the most recent Porsche 911. In ,most, cars, when you open the engine bay bonnet door you can then access - the engine, in most cases. Electric cars are a little different, in that their motors hide under an access panel, but the principle is retained. But the modern Porsche is a full on ,freak show, for anyone who is both mechanically minded, and yet wants to own one. So much so, the next few photos will shock you. Here’s a 2019 Porsche 911 engine bay door opened: Quelle horreur - ,where is the engine? It positively screams “No user serviceable parts inside” - and, despite the oil fill and water fill caps - there’s no way of knowing if enough is enough, and that will be my next point … To service this monstrosity, the process is apparently as follows: (a) Jack up the car on a garage hoist; (b) REMOVE : Wheels, Body Panels (!), the inner panel behind the rear bench (!!) and in some cases - the rear windscreen (!!!) (c) Drop ,the entire engine, on its subframe out of the car. And change - sparkplugs! This is a car whose user-manual says at ,every, turn ‘Take me to my dealer!’ … makes sense, in that it appears to both come from and be engineered by Martians… William Gillam has suggested that Porsche has done this due to the configuration of the 911’s engine - a boxer flat 6. This reasoning is ,wholly incorrect ,- and here is why : This is the engine bay of a 1984 Porsche 911 (air cooled) and while its difficult getting to the back, its not impossible. For contrast, here is the engine of a water-cooled 911, from the 1990’s. The back object at the front is part of the air intake plenum, and can be removed to give access to the engine. The rear cylinders are less accessible, true, but again it is not impossible to service the engine by its owner in a general way. So, to argue that engine configuration is the reason for Porsche deliberately engineering the car to make this so is wholly incorrect. The recent action to have done so has been a deliberate act designed to prevent owners of the car from having any independence from the dealership.  The disappearance of dipsticks in engine bays - case study : the BMW 3-series from 2015 onwards. A dipstick allows the owner (like me) to give the car a weekly check on oil, transmission fluid, and any other system where level of fluid is essential. BMW, from 2015, decided to entrust this vital info to a sensor which the owner (if they bothered to read the manual) could navigate to via the iDrive electronic instrument computer system. As, when you open the bonnet … No dipsticks ANYWHERE! This is ,bad news, for the owner of this car for general maintenance. The photo will also bring me onto my next point, but I’ll get another photo to illustrate the problem better as well.  Burying the rear end of the engine under the firewall : case example - Mercedes-Benz AMG V-8 cars. In ,most, cars, access to the engine components for inspection and maintenance is, with some exceptions, logical and easy. If you look at the BMW engine bay above, you’ll notice that finding these components is daunting ,at best,, and removal of several plastic engine access panels is a necessity - but that’s something that one can get used to. However, a design trend present not so long ago among Straight 6, V-6 and V-8 engine powered German cars (I haven’t seen recent V-12 engine bays, but I’ll bet 10c that it is the same story) has been accompanied by another frankly ,terrible, and pointless - though money-making for manufacturer’s maintenance departments - idea. Burying the rear of the engine under the firewall,. Have a look - Think I am joking ? the rear two cylinders are ,under, the back end of the firewall. And it is not just the V-8s ! It's the straight sixes too … And it's not an isolated phenomenon - Here’s an Audi RS4 engine - with the back end of its banks buried under the firewall again … … And a recent V-8ed BMW M5. So - to do ,any, kind of maintenance on the engine - like change a spark plug - the Owner would need to again get the car up on a hoist, and a technician would then have to ,drop the sub frame, to get at the engine!  Using plastics for thermally critical engine cooling control : Example - recent Volkswagens. For most cars, the cooling system is a critical control item. To prevent thermal expansion giving rise to problems, crucial parts e.g. the Thermostat housing (on radiator and cooling circuit) are invariably metal, and have been for over a century. After 1996, VW has been replacing these with - plastic! AAARGGGHH! This is ,severly FREAKZOID,, as if there is sufficient overpressure, the housing ,will, ,SHATTER,, and there is no way of temporarily clamping the pipe and refilling the system with coolant to limp the car home for later servicing. Every, other non-German car make makes these out of ,metal, for a reason - so that the worst that can happen is that the cartridge dies, and maybe the gasket seal fails. And that ,the entire system does NOT suffer a structural failure! I will emphasise that I do own a European car - an Alfa Romeo 156 (the last of their production) and, while it is certainly not perfect, it is surprisingly reliable. And it is also 1000% easier to service! There is literally ,not a single, part of its maintenance that even ,slightly, involves the shenanigans perpetrated by BMW, Audi, MB and Porsche on its customers. Even the latest Alfas, Fiats, Ferraris and Maseratis are a better deal in terms of keeping the car on the road. So too are French, Swedish and even ,British, (shudder) cars if we stick to Europe. [It is a bit tight in there - but you can get at ,everything,. Care and attention to detail = easy maintenance. Changing the cambelt requires removing the front wheel on the driver’s side, plus putting on the camlocks ,but thats IT, - dropping the subframe is not required !] And, of course Japanese cars are ,all, 100% better again in terms of engineering excellence, and Korean cars not far behind now. Heck, even ,American, cars these days are better in terms of engineering compared to the Germans! Other things I haven’t touched on, but perhaps ,should, (and you are free too look these up) also reflect incredibly poor choices in automotive engineering, chiefly by the Germans (again!) which spell ruin for the owner -  Mis-engineering brake rotor design by Mercedes so that each pad change = a brake rotor machine = $400+. Not even ,Rolls Royce, does this!  The whole idiotic 5mm window drop nonsense, which is purposely designed to burn out window motors. VW does this now with ,pillared, door Golfs, Polos and Passats - which is simultaneously idiotic and mendacious.  Electronic relays being replaced with expensive, less reliable, and money-grubbing relay board computers for simple electronic services. MB is worst in this regard, and again no other luxury car manufacturer has ever seen the need. So, there you go. Enthusiasts regard German cars as being defined by 1989 - the year that the Berlin Wall fell. Before 1989 they were by and large ,awesome,. After 1989 they became ,hideously horrible,. Worse yet, after 1989 all of the makers started ,bribing, British and American magazines to promote their increasingly shoddy goods. Is the Golf GTi the greatest car in the world? No. Never has been. I would never want to own one of those pieces of junk. Is MB the most luxurious car made? No - A Lexus is that, in so far as it has all the creature comforts and yet ,is affordable to operate and is utterly reliable,. Is a BMW M3 / M5 a great sports saloon? Maybe in the past, but Alfa Romeo Guilia, Nissan GT-R, and several Lexuses are a better bet these days. And have you seen the newest high-spec Toyota Camry? That thing is both fast-looking, fast-moving, and completely reliable! Heck - Holden and Cadillac make cooler and faster hardware - with MANUAL gearboxes (YAY!) For aesthetics, I have to report that the TRD Toyota Camry does look amazing in white… Ordinary car it may be in general, but the zooted-up version does have a certain ,something ,about it. Its astonishing it exists at all…and then is almost utterly reliable, easy to service, and built with Lexus-level precision. Looks like it comes out of a ,Seinen, Anime - which is a good thing, imho. And so on - it is safe to say that the Germans are making ,terrible, engineering decisions, and are at last now being forced to pay for them with clients being dubious about their product’s merits. And that’s before we get to the fact that all German car makers have been pollution cheats with their nasty, dirty diesels… My 2c worth, for what it is worth.
In general, BMW M models require proper maintenance, performed by BMW certified mechanics, according to factory standards and using original parts. If you are willing to obey that, a BMW M3 is a pretty reliable car. However, it requires much more (and costly) attention than, let's say, a Toyota Camry.
Show me a person who doesn't turn her head at a Lotus Elise. They are cheap, powered by a Toyota engine and that means reliability, and rare enough that people don't know what they cost. You can get one for well under $40,000. I am getting one even though I don't want to own gasoline cars. That one is irrational and rationality be damned. ;) Just like this one, in Krypton Green. My black BMW M3 convertible is very tame by comparison.
Yes of course they are, Lexus is regarded as the Japanese Mercedes. Lexus has the Japanese principle for making the car as good for time indefinite; most of the Lexus vehicle will last until after you die if maintained properly. German vehicles in general has the principle of making the car as good for as long as it lasts. Whether performance or luxury both principles applied. While I do like a reliable car, I don’t keep my cars long enough to care about what happen to it after the warranty ended; the only car I kept after the warranty period was a 2008 Lexus IS-F. I had it for 4 years, and it gave me 0 mechanical problems. Since then I switched to the BMW M platform, and each of those has been in the shop for warranty work; maybe because I track the car, and I use them as a daily driver. To compare: 2008 Lexus IS-F: ~3k in tires over 4 years, 1 set of brake pads, 5 oil changes 2016 BMW M3: 2k in tires over 1 year, 2 oil changes, about a total of 3 weeks of downtime due to differential issues, and a few other things. Why didn’t I buy the new Lexus then? Simple because the joy that I get when I lap people with those car on the race track is worth more than the headache.
Mazda 323 GTX. Built back when regulations required a production version of a rally car, so that Mazda could go rally racing against the likes of the BMW M3 and Audi Quattro in the late 80's. Not very fast in purely stock form, but awd and turbo, and gobs of additional power if you want it. Warning: looks like an 80's econobox because it is. BMW Z3 Coupe. This was basically a 20% project by BMW engineers who felt they could convert the Z3 roadster into a true sports car by adding rigidity. It was never intended for production but they talked the suits into allowing it. The standard 3.0i is within your price range and has plenty of power. Honda S2000. A shrieking performance car that has great handling and reliability, if somewhat compromised for day to day use. Get a 2002-2003 model for the extra shrieky engine and the glass rear window.
For the money of a new Mustang you could probably also get a pre-owned BMW M3, which will offer more room for four. And given the fact that the BMW M3 is rated the most successful sports racing car in the world, it should be sporty enough to fit most needs;-) Try to get one without aftermarket modifications, that will keep the reliability up.
2018 BMW M3 (F80) Competition package 6 speed manual $76,155 MSRP (see attached pictures). I got a great deal and only paid $65,800. The car has been absolutely fantastic. Reliable. Fun. Fast! Rear wheel drive and 0–60 in 3.9 seconds. A piece of machinery like nothing I have driven before. Built so solid it’s like a tank. All around incredible performance. The only things I would say are that the car is way more capable than the speed limits allow in the U.S. Even with an 80mph zone here in Idaho. AND the car is way more capable than I am as a driver. So basically I can’t fully utilize it and even if I could it can’t be fully utilized on public roads. But it’s such an amazing car. And it gets so much attention every where I go. Which takes some getting used to and I don’t particularly like it anymore. P.S. I selected the yas marina blue color because it was very bold. And the color is unique to BMW M3/4’s. So if you see that color BMW coming down the road you know this is no regular 3/4 series!!
A 17 year old BMW vs a 5 year old Japanese car? You can’t be serious! That BMW will nickel and dime you to death with little repairs on a monthly basis. The Nissan you just have to change the oil and it’s likely it won’t need anything else.
Since several people have already given you the correct answer I'll feel free to give you my answer; the BMW E30. Built in the late 1980’s through the early 90’s, the E30 is The Ultimate Driving Machine. With a great power to weight ratio from a fuel injected straight six (or a four), a nimble chassis thanks to four wheel independent suspension and a near perfect 50/50 front/rear balance, good looks, and legendary German engineering of yesterday, this is a reliable, safe, fun to drive car. There is plenty of room for this six foot 200# driver without the seat all the way back. Best with only one passenger there is room in back for a couple kids. Trunk big enough to carry a drum kit. It has great visibility. You can see all four corners of the car from the drivers seat, there is practically no blind spot making lane changes safe and easy enough that you barely need the included turn signals! It has a tight turning circle that combined with it's small size and power steering make parking a breeze. Plus the race ready version, the E30 M3 is one of the winningest race cars of all time. The biggest problem with this car is that you obviously can't buy a new one. But there is still hope! They built nearly 2.5 million of these cars during their ten year run and many of them are on the road today. I mentioned that they are reliable but everything thing can wear out. Luckily BMW is still supporting this car with awesome parts availability. You can pick one up across a price range for everyone. From a restoration project for a couple hundred bucks to a clean daily driver for 3–5 thousand to mild to wild customization up to actual race cars that can be $30,000 and more. Got lots of money to spend? Find one of those M3's. The above opinions may be biased by my experience with this beauty that was one of those $300 projects when I bought it sixteen years and a quarter million miles ago.