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Which automaker do you think is better, Porsche or BMW and why?

“Better for the money” to me means “bang for the buck” and so I would not take into account daily operating costs, resale, efficiency, insurance and so forth. At the high-end of the model-lines it’s BMW, no question. Porsche’s are superior cars and have superior prices. The Porsche 911 can easily be optioned up past $300K. No BMW comes close to that price. If you consider a Porsche 911 to be 10/10 in performance then a BMW M4 is 8/10 performance for a third the price. Its the same story if you are comparing the Panamera Turbo to the M5. The line blurs as you move down through models and when you get to the Caymen versus the M2 then I’d say they are close enough to be equal. This is called the Law of Diminishing Returns. To get a higher performing car than a Porsche 911 (say, the GT2) then you are into hyper car territory and already own 12 other cars and it’s likely at least one is a Porsche- according to McLaren’s advertising department.

Does a BMW M3 handle better than a Porsche 911?

Here is a comparison between the M4 and the 911. 2015 BMW M4 vs. 2014 Porsche 911 Carrera The 911 loses the comparison due to a higher price tag and fewer comfort features. In terms of handling, the authors said “You’ll notice that the 911 took every one of our subjective chassis categories. The 911’s shortcomings have nothing to do with driving. “ By that authors point of view, the 911 handled better than the M4.

What new cars are the most pleasurable to drive on long daily commutes?

It depends on your definition of pleasure. Some people want a car that just wafts them from place to place in extreme comfort and quiet. For them a large upscale sedan will work just fine, or even a luxury SUV. Even some trucks are available with great interiors, provide great visibility, and smooth engines, but cost a small fortune and are still not as quiet as the better sedans. Examples on the lower end for the pampered approach would be a Toyota Avalon or Honda Accord. Or in the middle, a Mercedes C class, Audi A6 or BMW 5 series. Any Cadillac model with magnetic ride control, such as the CT6. If cost is no object, you have the Mercedes S class, BMW 7 series, Audi R8, Rolls Royce Phantom or Bentley. The best bang for the buck in this category is the Genesis G90 which has wonderful seats, great ride, and is very quiet- for half to a 1/3 the cost of some other cars that it competes with. Don’t get me wrong, some of these cushy rides are really fast and capable performers, but they tend to be heavier and are not prioritized for enthusiasts. Others, myself included, want to be inspired by the drive and will prioritize handling, braking, acceleration, and driver involvement. I still don't want to be beat to death by the suspension or lose hearing, or throw my back out entering or exiting the car. But most of all, I want to feel connected and involved, not lulled to sleep. So what cars fall into this second definition of a pleasurable commute? Let's start with two I know well. The Honda Civic SI was used for years on a long commute. But I never minded, the car was so engaging to drive. Quick enough, a great six speed manual, excellent brakes, a fantastic chassis and steering with huge cornering grip. The ride was not bad, if not quite as forgiving as some of the cars listed above. One of the best all around cars, period, let alone for the price. Seats were fine at first, but eventually became less comfortable, and encouraged me to consider trading up. The car I traded it for? A Honda Civic Type R. Why? In addition to a better performing and sounding engine I was looking for much better seats, and the extra storage you get in a hatch. The handling, already great in the SI, moved up sharply in the Type R. From .95 - 97g for the SI to 1.03 g for the Type R on a skidpad. Brakes are even better. The 106 feet stopping distance from 60 in the SI is very, very good, but the 99 feet from 60 in the Type R is world class. A pleasant commute means avoiding accidents, right? The engine sound improved. The car is faster and revs higher. But best of all the Alcantara seats are very, very comfortable. Saved my backside. In the SI, I eventually had to buy a special leather cushion just to drive it comfortably. No need for that in the Type R. Before the world shut down, I commuted in the Type R and enjoyed every mile. Pure pleasure. Even with 20″ ultra low profile tires vs. the 18″ low profile rubber on the SI, the ride is somehow even better! Highly recommended. Mine is an ‘18. New ones have additional safety features and driver assists. But you do have to be able to drive a manual or be willing to learn. It is worth it! Those are just two examples. Other enthusiast cars for a pleasant commute? BMW M2 or M4, Hyundai Veloster N, Porsche Cayman or Boxster. Why not a Subaru WRX STi? Too harsh a ride. Focus RS, Nope. A good track car, but not a great daily driver. The seats are overbolstered. Visibility is fair. The new Corvette C8 with magnetic ride control is fast, tight, comfortable, just amazing. Could be used for a commute, but borderline for that purpose. Most pure muscle cars are not ideal commuters- gas mileage on most is poor. That engine and exhaust noise is cool, but might not wear well on a long commute. Plus the ride on some will beat you up. Vibration can also be a factor. Or, in the case of a Camaro, you can’ t even see out of it. If you want a thrill, but can't and won't drive a true manual- a pity- some good options for you are Kia Stinger, Audi TT, Audi R10. Porsche 911, Audi RS5.

From a sports car enthusiast, what are the differences between the Porsche 997.2 Carrera and the E92 BMW M3?

First of all, congratulations on your choice - ,both of them are amazing vehicles, - cars that will make your every drive special. I have been lucky enough to have owned 2007 models of BMW M3 E92 (pre-facelift) and 997.1 GT3. I have driven several of the face-lifted BMW and 997.2 (S and non-S models), including track driving. So I will talk about 2010+ BMW and 997.2 Porsche S. Before I do, let me be a bit nostalgic and share pics of my two babies. Let us start with basic stats of the vehicles you are considering: BMW M3 E92 Coupe, Automatic (DCT) Layout: ,front-engined, real-wheel-drive Wheelbase: ,2761 mm Weight: ,1675 kg Engine: ,4.0 litre, V8, (90deg), DOHC, 309 kW (,420 PS,) @ ,8300 rpm,, 400 Nm Power to weight: ,250.6 PS/ton 0-100 km/h: ,4.6s V-max: ,250 km/h,, ,limited (although the limiter kicks in at ca 275 km/h indicated); ca 300 km/h true speed without limiter Brakes: ,360 mm/ 350 mm Tyres: ,245/40 ZR 18 / 265/40 ZR 18 Porsche 911 (997.2) S Coupe, Automatic (PDK) Layout: ,rear-engined, real-wheel-drive, (4WD as an option) Wheelbase: ,2350 mm Weight: ,1455 kg Engine: ,3.8 litre, Flat-6,, DOHC, 283 kW (,385 PS,) @ ,6500 rpm,, 420 Nm Power to weight: ,264.8 PS/ton 0-100 km/h: ,4.5s V-max: ,300 km/h Brakes: ,330 mm/ 330 mm Tyres: ,235/35 ZR 19 / 295/30 ZR 19 Presence and looks: hard to choose between them on this ,Both of these car are motoring icons, future classics and will turn heads and make you feel special. Driving them is an honor, a privilege and most importantly ,a great fun., If all else would be equal, I would always go for the Porsche. It has always made for a better bedroom poster and I feel it is more special. I am saying that although I have owned more BMWs in my life and am planning to buy more of them still. But 911 is the 911 -, probably the most iconic sports-car ever produced. Handling: Porsche is faster and more fun to drive on the track ,As I have done a bit of track driving, I can attest to the amazing handling capabilities of the rear-engine concept. The BMW does handle exceptionally well - in a traditional RWD sense, but you do feel that you have a the weight all around you. It fortunately is not nose-heavy though, thanks to tedious efforts to achieve 50:50 weight distribution. Porsche handling concept is defined by the low-center-of-gravity boxer engine mounted faaar behind you. And that makes a world of difference. Every time you turn, you will know it is there and if you are brave (and skilled) enough and learn how to break late into the corners, you will be rewarded by amazing pendulum effect helping you turn the vehicle. Probably the best feeling I have had outside of a bedroom. Steering in the Porsche is also lot more communicative - you feel the texture of the road and every intention of the car little bit better. Thanks to the engine mounted at the back, you also get significantly more traction (this is why the 911 is quicker even when you match power 2 weight ratio). The 911 (even non-GT3) belongs to the track more, that the M3 does - in my view. This brings us to the biggest problem of, the E92 M3. It actually is HEAVY., Very heavy. It weighs 1675 kg with auto vs. 1455 kg of the Porsche. 220 kg difference. Repeat: 220 kg difference. Engine manages to wipe that out in a straight line, but in the corners, no matter what you do, you will be sent an email informing you, that there is way over 1600 kg of metal, that also need to make it around the bend. I used to own E36 and driven several of E46 BMW and the generational increase in weight is insane. The electronic damper control does help a bit, but when you turn that wheel, you know. It is a great shame. (At least they have fixed this with the M4.) OK, it’s nowhere near this bad, but it spoils your day a bit. Engine: the V8 in the BMW is one of the best engines ever made, Both cars have amazing power train, don’t get me wrong. I did used to like the non-direct injected Porsche engines a lot, especially the racy ,Mezger engine, in the 997 GT3s. The newer Porsche engines (incl. 997.2) are powerful, have great torque curve, great response to throttle and sound good - but they are not as exciting as they used to be. BMW S65 motor,, with the power figure at 309 kW (420PS) and 400 Nm of torgue, on the other hand, is a masterpiece. It revs very freely, responds to your every little input with immediacy and sounds EPIC (note: especially with good aftermarket rear - like Eisenmann I had). Just listen to it (with my wife revving the car, albeit in low revs): Transmission - Porsche’s Double-Clutch is better than BMW’s, Both cars are available with 7-speed double-clutch and 6 speed manual. As a purist, I would go for the manual as both of these boxes are precise, short(-ish)-throw and a lot of fun to operate. Having said that, the autos are great too and faster. I find Porsche’s PDK to be a lot smoother and hence more comfortable and chilled for every-day driving. At the same time, it is just as fast, if not faster, as the BMW, when your trousers are on fire. BMW’s DCT suffers from occasional low-speed jerk (SMGs of E36 and E46 used to as well) and there is a big kick-in-the-kidney when you are in a hurry. I do not enjoy this. Nibble: I also dont like the way M3’s gear leaver looks - small and fiddly (and they kept it for M4 :-//). BMW M3 DCT Gear Leaver Practicality and running costs: hands down the BMW - by a huge margin, If you want to live with either of those every day, I think you need to have the BMW. It is easier to get in and out, has more space around you, more comfortable seats, you can fit two people in the back seats if you really really need to, it has a pretty big boot and you can fold the back seats to transport long objects (I have moved a 1-person mattress from IKEA in my M3). Here in Europe the BMW is also cheaper to buy, MUCH cheaper to insure and will be cheaper to run in maintenance costs (I found Porsche parts and hourly rates 30–50% higher). On the another hand, the Porsche is more economical. I managed 19 liters / 100 km with the BMW, while I believe it is possible to do around 12-15 l/100 km in the standard 911. My GT3 was sitting at 30 liters / 100 km, but that was not it’s fault :-))., ,For those long drives, the BMW will also be more capable and pleasant mile(km)-eater - also thanks to it’s significantly longer wheelbase 2761 vs. 2350 mm). So there you have it. If you will have it as your primary car, I would go for the ,BMW M3,, because it is cheaper and lot more practical. I have done this twice in the past. If you can afford to have it only as a fun+track car, I would go for ,Audi A6 and the Porsche 911,. If you can afford to have it only as a fun car, I would go for ,Audi A6, Porsche 911 and a Lotus Exige, ,Cup ,for the track. There is no one car to do it all in my view. :) But in either case - which ever of the two you choose, I am sure you will be very happy. They are both a much greater wholes than the sum of their parts. Good luck with the purchase and see you in the motoring Nirvana :-).

How do American cars compare to high end BMWs in terms of power and comfort?

In my opinion Cadillac is the closest American competition to German luxury sports cars such as BMW. However, they are still lagging behind in regards to driving dynamics. Many people seem very impressed by sheer horsepower over the total driving package. I do like the way some of the Cadillac models look, they definitely have their own distinct design language and have stuck with it and refining it for sometime now. I have owned many cars throughout my life, Chevrolets, Fords, Mazdas, Nissans, Mercedes Benz, BMW and a Porsche. These days my daily driver is a Mercedes Benz. I have driven several other cars and some on racetracks, these cars have included Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Panoz among others. I have test driven a BMW M5 and a Cadillac ATS-V. Despite what some people may say I find the BMW’s driving capabilities far better than the Cadillac’s. Although I found the Cadillac capable, still felt sluggish, and a bit tail happy during cornering in comparison to the much tighter BMW. The driving dynamics of the BMW are just fantastic and they are pretty much the benchmark that other manufactures use when designing a car’s technical agility. That’s a fact. In terms of raw power, these days you can get anything from a 4-cylinder engine to 12 cylinder engines all producing amazing horsepower and torque for their respective size. The Cadillac ATS-V has a 6.3L engine with 464 hp. The BMW M4 has a 6L engine producing 425 hp. This comparisson would put the Cadi ahead but it also weights 200 lbs more than the Bimmer so it may be a moot point. The handling however, favors the BMW. I found the BMW handling to be the best in the business without having to go the exotic-car route. The only reason I do not own a BMW these days is that when I did, I found it to be very costly to maintain because it developed too many little things going wrong too soon into the ownership. I wasn’t completely pleased with the finish on some of the under-the-hood materials and even though I loved the way it drove, I wanted something that spent less time at the shop. I switched to Mercedes Benz and have owned three of them dating back to the 90’s. For fun and great driving dynamics I bought me a Porsche Cayman. I prefer this vehicle over the Boxter because the hard roof adds stiffness to an already excellently balanced chassis. I prefer the Cayman over a 911 because the mid-engine layout and the two vs four seats configuration gives the car perhaps the best handling capabilities over any other Porsche product. If I were to buy an American luxury car it most likely be a Cadillac but despite the improvements, I feel that there’s still catching up to the Germans in regards of overall performance. Back to the question though, How do American cars compare to high end BMWs in terms of power and comfort? The upcoming Cadillac CT6-V promises a lot with its twin turbo V8. The BMW M6 also has a V8 with a ridiculous amount of horsepower (560 hp), carbon ceramic brakes that can stop the thing amazingly fast and a host of technical and luxury appointments that can only be achieved by shelling out the more or less the $120 K that they want for it. As on now, my money is in the BMW but who knows what they future may bring.

Which one offers better value, BMW M4 vs Porsche 911 Carrera?

A Bmw M4 in my opinion the best midrange European sports car you can buy. However the Porsche 911 carrera is more of a luxurious sports car and is more about the exclusivity of the Porsche Brand. In terms of value it depends on what you need such as an extremely powerful M4 which will just blow you away or a 911 that offers prestige, fun, and something that will turn heads

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